1) Back to Grin’s other Feedback: Proposal structure
@grin its quite simple, if there are dependent proposals, the DAO should have the chance to vote on them all at once.
Have you and @jon not yet drafted proposals for 2025, or are you working on them in secret, waiting for this proposal to pass before introducing the next one to vote on? … Why not try to have the interconnected proposals all clearly visible for people to better understand the dependencies and opportunities for collaboration?
2) Grins Other Feedback: What’s Next?
I want to collaborate, competition isn’t productive, and we can do better than the patriarchal and individualistic culture that we’ve been brought up in. We were all on the same team earlier this year, until I quit because @jon decided to abandon existing community members as he felt the need to follow the traditional start-up playbook to just pick one thing to focus on. Almost all of our ETH Denver brainstorming call was recorded for reference, I watched it to jog my memory. During the call, Jon repeatedly asked what we want to build looking forward. He was not concerned with what the community wanted. It was all about what we three wanted to do, and why people would pay us for it. I’m all for @jon to continue his business model experiments while @savkruger leads the NAP, and I’m open to the RPG game ideas, but I think we need ot address the key gaps in culture that I have repeatedly spoken up about.
During the NAP proposal call when I brought up the gaps around diversity and asked to have a all, @grin @jon and @savkruger all remained silent. I understand that these topics may be uncomfortable for yall to discuss, especially when your salaries are involved, but please trust me that we can have this discussions in an open and friendly way as we seek to build not only regenerative, but also restorative systems that foster belonging and impact.
@Ktando & I have both spoken up in the discord this week to try to resume these discussions and were met with silence. I’d really appreciate the chance for a community call to continue these discussions live.
Unfortunately at this point I don’t expect @jon to be open to a call as he continues to hold this perspective:
But I’d love to jump on a call with anyone else interested, and its been heart warming to see past community members chimming in on discord to show their support for more open discussions about “doing the thing” like this 
3) What parts of my message did Grin not respond to?
As this thread turns into essays, I just want to summarize my original points from the earlier message @Grin responded to, with ones in bold net yet being addressed:
1. Growth is prioritized more than impact
2. Pods are passing proposals in silos
3. The distribution of resources is hierarchical and not equitable
4. Lots of $ is being spent with little visible impact
5. Cabin Labs is focused on extractive business models
6. There is little focus on decentralization
7. Diversity and Inclusion is an afterthought
8. Local impact should be prioritized
Phew is it hard to keep all this in sync on these posts haha…
4) Lets have more calls
I’d love for us all to jump on an open community call to continue these discussions live, as when i write long passages and am fully or partially ignored on the forum and in Discord, it doesn’t quite feel like the productive discourse that I’ve been encouraged to seek out here 
I know these are hard discussion topics for folks not used to grappling with the realities of privilege and power, but I hope we can continue to engage in a productive way.
Some guiding questions I’d suggest as agenda items:
- How can Cabin foster diversity within the NAP program and broader community?
- Do we agree that Cabin should only support @jon’s definition of “neighborhoods”, or would we be open to more inclusive opportunities for who can be a part of Cabin’s “network city” and city directory?
- How can we improve the process so more people can engage to help Cabin “do the thing”, is the NAP the only way? How can we kickstart other community driven initiatives like @Dahveed & @Kat’s Ideation Pod and @eileen’s Gatherer’s Guild?
- What is “the thing” we are all trying to do, and how can we talk about it in a way that excites others to join us? (see my above section on impact for a primer)
I’ll follow up with folks in Discord to plan a time for this call.
@jon @grin @savkruger, look forward to finding ways we can collaborate 